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Dr Karl Sirotkin's avatar

Well, I am surprised to have not commented on this, before, I know both Dan and I wrote some takedowns of the Nature Proximal article. It is clear the real conspiracy was the cover up of the lab origin. Also Note that this article was prescient, published in March, 2020, and the article showing ADE to the same range as the canonical ADE exhibiting virus, dengue, was published in December of 2021: https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC8704563/

"Antibody-Dependent Enhancement of SARS-CoV-2 Infection of Human Immune Cells: In Vitro Assessment Provides Insight in COVID-19 Pathogenesis".

I have given up hope that the current administration was going to follow up as originally suggested on COVID origins, especially on serial passage and the vaccine study connection. For the record, I am generally in favor of 90% of vaccines, and am highly vaccinated myself. I just want them studied, as for example with dengue, they are a bad idea.

If others reading this want more details, please ask, but I thought a brief comment more likely to be read.

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Laurie's avatar

Jamie Metzl on Twitter this week regarding origins of C19 makes me ill.

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Dan Sirotkin's avatar

Yeah the good news is they'll start eating each other before too much longer. 

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Moonspinner's avatar

Thanks for the spoiler alert. I'll watch "The Expanse" first before reading your latest.

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Dan Sirotkin's avatar

The first three seasons are truly fantastic!!

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Rick Larson's avatar

To this point I will conclude scientists are less ethical than moneys with sticks. I'll keep reading!

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Rick Larson's avatar

I don't believe the rhetoric of Republican Congressman will get to the bottom of this. Like typed, they will only blame the Chinese I suspect.

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Dan Sirotkin's avatar

Yep everybody is scrambling to bury the American involvement. 

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Rick Larson's avatar

An acquaintance I know personally lost the sense of smell and taste and it still lingers to this day.

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Rick Larson's avatar

Descriptive name: Wuhan Institute of Virology’s Disease Engineering Technical Research Center.

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